You Said This Would Be Fun
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By Jeff Warrender

Narrated by Quentin Hudspeth

🎧 9 hours and 13 minutes 📘 Jeff Warrender 📅 December 10, 2020 🌐 English
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Good games don’t emerge out of thin air. Game design is a craft, and as in any other craft, there are skills and knowledge, acquired through study and practice, that accelerate progress toward better games.

You Said This Would Be Fun explores these skills, explaining how great games exhibit qualities that designers of all experience levels can strive to emulate. There are many game design journeys – that of the first-time designer with a fresh idea, the experienced designer looking for new approaches, the enthusiast seeking a deeper understanding of how games work – and if you are on (or considering joining) any of these, this book will be a useful guide to help you along your way.

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Quick Take

  • Narration: Quentin Hudspeth keeps a clean, conversational pace that suits the book’s accessible tone – this is not a performance narration but a knowledgeable voice walking through ideas.
  • Themes: Design philosophy, fun as a design objective, the gap between good intentions and good games
  • Mood: Engaged and analytical, with genuine enthusiasm for the craft
  • Verdict: An honest, practically-minded book about what makes games work – more valuable as a philosophical toolkit than as a step-by-step design manual, and most rewarding for strategy and board game designers specifically.

I came to You Said This Would Be Fun during a period when I was helping a friend think through the design of a small tabletop game project. I am not a game designer by any stretch, but I have spent enough time thinking about how narrative structures create engagement to find the parallel questions interesting: what makes something genuinely enjoyable, and how do you design for that rather than around it? Jeff Warrender’s book turned out to be a useful companion for those questions, even if the specific vocabulary is firmly rooted in strategy board game design rather than narrative or video game contexts.

Warrender is an independent game designer, and that position shows in the book in both its strengths and its limitations. He writes as a practitioner who has worked through these problems in his own projects, not as an academic systematizing other people’s work. The result is a book that feels lived-in and honest rather than theoretical and distant, but it also carries the credibility questions that independent expertise always invites.

Our Take on You Said This Would Be Fun

The book’s central project is to articulate what makes games exhibit the quality of fun – to give designers a vocabulary and a set of axioms that can function as a design checklist. Warrender is interested in what he calls the thinking-man’s fun found in strategy games: the engagement that comes from meaningful decisions, from having your choices matter, from facing an opponent or system that genuinely resists you. One reviewer made the useful observation that he has a clear bias toward interactivity, toward games where player decisions drive outcome, and that this makes the book less applicable to puzzle design or role-playing games. That is a fair and accurate limitation to flag. For strategy board game designers specifically, the axiom framework is described by multiple reviewers as genuinely useful – one designer wrote every axiom on a large sheet of paper and now uses it as a literal checklist when evaluating designs.

Why Listen to You Said This Would Be Fun

Quentin Hudspeth narrates in a style that matches the book’s conversational register. This is not a performance audiobook – Hudspeth is not doing character voices or dramatic pacing. He is reading a thoughtful craft book to you, and he does that with appropriate clarity and warmth. The audiobook format works reasonably well for content organized around axioms and principles rather than around exercises that require pencil and paper. At nine hours and thirteen minutes, it is long enough to feel comprehensive without overstaying its welcome. The book is also cited by reviewers across a range of experience levels – beginners finding it foundational, experienced designers finding new angles. That dual accessibility is unusual in craft books and speaks well of how Warrender calibrated the material.

What to Watch For in You Said This Would Be Fun

The question of Warrender’s authority surfaces in the reviews, and it deserves acknowledgment. One reviewer raised the pointed observation that his published games sit below the 5,000 mark on BoardGameGeek, and questioned whether that limited track record gives him the standing to pronounce definitively on what does or does not make games work. That is not a disqualifying criticism – designers who publish and teach and analyze their own work often produce useful craft books regardless of their commercial profile – but listeners should calibrate accordingly. This is an intelligent practitioner’s perspective, not a comprehensive field survey. Warrender’s prose can also veer into vocabulary choices that feel unnecessarily complex when simpler words would serve the ideas just as well.

Who Should Listen to You Said This Would Be Fun

Strategy and board game designers at any experience level who want a philosophical framework for thinking about fun as a design objective. Also worth the time for video game designers who work in strategy genres and want a perspective from outside the digital space. Less valuable for designers focused primarily on narrative RPGs, puzzle games, or cooperative play mechanics – the book’s concept of interactivity skews toward competitive strategy. Active designers will get more from this than casual game enthusiasts seeking to understand games from the outside.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is You Said This Would Be Fun useful for video game designers, or is it strictly about board games?

Primarily board games, and specifically strategy board games. However, one reviewer specifically notes that video game designers would benefit from reading it, particularly those working in strategy genres where meaningful player decisions drive engagement.

How does Warrender structure the book – is it sequential chapters or more of a reference format?

The book builds through axioms and principles that accumulate into a framework. Several designers describe using the axioms as a literal checklist when evaluating their designs, which suggests the structure lends itself to reference use after initial listening.

Is the audiobook format limiting given that this is a practical design book?

Somewhat. The axiom framework works well in audio as a conceptual tour, but designers who want to actively use the checklist will likely want to return to a print or ebook edition for reference. The audio is a good way to absorb the philosophy; the text is better for active design sessions.

Does the author address cooperative game design or is the focus exclusively on competitive games?

The book’s primary focus is on competitive strategy games where player decisions drive outcome. Reviewers note a clear bias toward interactivity in the competitive sense, making the book less applicable to cooperative mechanics or puzzle design.

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What Listeners Are Saying

★★★★★

Great book for strategy game designers, and players

The author does a great job for making the case of building fun into a strategy board game, and I think video game designers would do well to read this too, since video games more often fail in providing the type of thinking-man's fun found in the best strategy games.One…

– Ian B.
★★★★★

A great checklist for game designers

This book does a wonderful job of guiding a game designer through the different considerations one should take when designing a game. I actually wrote every axiom that the book presented down on a big sheet of paper and now I treat it like a checklist when I'm designing. I've…

– Jeffrey LaFlam
★★★☆☆

A valiant attempt to explain the ineffable

While there is some interesting info here and a strong voicing of opinion Jeff soesnt have the design chops to say what does or doesnt work.The writing is engaging, but filled with unneeded nickle words when a penny would be fine (tautological, anyone?).He has knowledge, he presents it well enough,…

– M. Rolfe
★★★★★

Necessary book

I read and re-read this book while designing a game. Highly helpful. Get this book, especially beginners.

– John W Arnold
★★★★★

A Must-read for Board Game Designers!

Board game design has made incredible strides in the last couple decades. But in a lot of ways it’s still like the Wild West, where designers live or die by their instincts. It might be one of the few domains where meritocracy still holds sway: if you’re diligent and good…

– JonnyPac

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