What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat
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What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat by Aubrey Gordon | Audiobook Review

By Aubrey Gordon

Narrated by Samara Naeymi

🎧 7 hours and 22 minutes 📘 Beacon Press Audio 📅 November 17, 2020 🌐 English

About This Audiobook

From the creator of Your Fat Friend and co-host of the Maintenance Phase podcast, an explosive indictment of the systemic and cultural bias facing plus-size people.

Anti-fatness is everywhere. In What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat, Aubrey Gordon unearths the cultural attitudes and social systems that have led to people being denied basic needs because they are fat and calls for social justice movements to be inclusive of plus-sized people’s experiences. Unlike the recent wave of memoirs and quasi self-help books that encourage readers to love and accept themselves, Gordon pushes the discussion further towards authentic fat activism, which includes ending legal weight discrimination, giving equal access to health care for large people, increased access to public spaces, and ending anti-fat violence. As she argues, “I did not come to body positivity for self-esteem. I came to it for social justice.”

By sharing her experiences as well as those of others - from smaller fat to very fat people - she concludes that to be fat in our society is to be seen as an undeniable failure, unlovable, unforgivable, and morally condemnable. Fatness is an open invitation for others to express disgust, fear, and insidious concern. To be fat is to be denied humanity and empathy. Studies show that fat survivors of sexual assault are less likely to be believed and less likely than their thin counterparts to report various crimes; 27% of very fat women and 13% of very fat men attempt suicide; over 50% of doctors describe their fat patients as “awkward, unattractive, ugly and noncompliant”; and in 48 states, it’s legal - even routine - to deny employment because of an applicant’s size.

Advancing fat justice and changing prejudicial structures and attitudes will require work from all people. What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat is a crucial tool to create a tectonic shift in the way we see, talk about, and treat our bodies, fat and thin alike.

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At a Glance

  • Narration: Samara Naeymi delivers Gordon's analytical and personal modes with equal grounded authority, one of the stronger narrator-material matches in recent advocacy nonfiction audio
  • Themes: Systemic weight discrimination, fat activism as civil rights, the limits of body positivity as a framework for change
  • Mood: Precise and unflinching, with sustained argumentative pressure that builds and reinforces across seven hours
  • Verdict: A serious, statistics-grounded case for treating anti-fat bias as a civil rights issue, not a comfortable listen, which is exactly the point Gordon is making

Aubrey Gordon's audiobook What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat makes a specific argument that most body positivity content actively avoids: self-love is not the point, and never was. Gordon, known until recently as the anonymous author behind Your Fat Friend and now co-host of the Maintenance Phase podcast, is interested in structural change rather than individual acceptance, and that distinction has real consequences for how the book reads, who it challenges, and what it asks of its listeners. Samara Naeymi narrates, and the match between narrator and material is one of the more effective partnerships in recent advocacy nonfiction audio. Gordon's precision requires a voice that can hold analytical rigor and personal anger simultaneously without the one dissolving into the other, and Naeymi delivers that balance throughout the seven-hour runtime.

First, the Big Picture

Gordon's central intervention is to move the conversation about fat experience out of the domain of personal psychology and into the domain of civil rights. The statistics she marshals are specific and uncomfortable: 27% of very fat women and 13% of very fat men attempt suicide; over 50% of doctors describe their fat patients as "awkward, unattractive, ugly and noncompliant"; in 48 states it is legal and routine to deny employment based on applicant size; fat survivors of sexual assault are less likely to be believed and less likely to report crimes. One reviewer noted that these facts hit with the force of something previously unknown: "I had no idea. Those words kept coming to mind." Gordon uses her own experience alongside the experiences of others across a spectrum she names carefully, from "smaller fat" to "superfat" and "infinifat," distinguishing the range of lived discrimination rather than treating fat experience as a single undifferentiated condition. The book's refusal to perform uplift is its defining quality. Gordon is not here to help anyone feel better about themselves; she is here to make the structural case for why feeling better about yourself is a distraction from the legal and institutional remedies that are actually required. This framing will feel clarifying to some listeners and confrontational to others, and both responses are understandable given how much of the existing body positivity conversation asks for the former rather than the latter.

The Best Parts of What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat

Naeymi's narration is one of the most important factors in why this audiobook works as well as it does in the audio format. The material requires a voice that can hold Gordon's analytical precision and her personal anger without the one undermining the other, and without the performance of either emotion as a signal to the listener about how to respond. Naeymi navigates this with apparent ease. The statistical chapters are delivered with the same grounded presence as the memoir sections, and that tonal consistency prevents the audiobook from feeling like two different texts grafted together in alternating chapters. One reviewer, a high school senior, noted that the book inspired them to create a petition against BMI testing in their school's fitness classes, which illustrates how the audiobook functions for listeners at different life stages and with different levels of prior exposure to fat activism as a framework. The writing that some reviewers acknowledge can be "repetitive" in places is handled by Naeymi with enough tonal variation to keep the audio experience from becoming monotonous across the full runtime.

A Few Reservations

Gordon is not interested in balance in the journalistic sense of presenting competing perspectives with equal weight. This is advocacy writing from a specific and clearly articulated position, and the audiobook functions as an argument rather than a survey of the landscape. Listeners who arrive expecting to hear multiple views on debates about weight and health will find Gordon's engagement with opposing frameworks largely dismissive, which is consistent with her stated purpose but should be named clearly as a feature of the book rather than an oversight. The repetition that at least one reviewer noted is genuine: Gordon circles certain arguments from multiple angles, which can feel like rhetorical reinforcement or like underdevelopment depending on how receptive you are to the central thesis. The rating count for this audiobook is thin, though Gordon's standing in fat activism and her influence on the broader conversation about body politics through her writing and podcast have been documented widely beyond the audiobook platform itself.

Who Should Listen to What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat

Listeners who work in healthcare, education, law, or any institutional setting where weight discrimination is present but rarely named will find Gordon's evidence-based framing practically useful for thinking through their professional contexts. Advocates working in body politics and fat liberation will find this foundational to the current conversation. Listeners who are themselves fat and have experienced the systemic barriers Gordon describes will hear their experience named with a specificity that most public discourse still avoids. Skip it if you want balanced treatment of debates around weight and health, or if you are primarily seeking practical strategies for personal wellbeing rather than a structural critique of how institutions treat fat people. Naeymi's narration makes the seven-hour runtime engaging even for listeners who push back on parts of Gordon's argument, which is part of what makes this audiobook worth the time regardless of where you ultimately land on her conclusions.

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What Listeners Are Saying

★★★★★

I had no idea of the level of contempt and discrimination

I had no idea. Those words kept coming to mind as I learned from Aubrey Gordon about how people who fall into the categories she calls “superfat” (women’s sizes 26-32) and “infinifat” (women’s size 34 and up) can get thrown off planes with no warning. They often cannot get medical...

- Lynne M. Baab
★★★★★

A great addition to the literary fatosphere!

I really enjoy Gordon’s online writing as Your Fat Friend and was thrilled she wrote a book! (And even more thrilled to find out, now that she's no longer anonymous, that she’s my age and lives in my town - no wonder I feel an affinity for her.) Be fair-warned,...

- Parker M
★★★★☆

Inspirational,

I’m a High School senior and this book inspired me to create a petition to remove the BMI testing in our fitness classes. The writing was repetitive, but other than that, I recommend it to EVERYONE!

- Amazon Customer
★★★★★

Excellent Read

This should be required reading for EVERYONE - fat & thin people alike. Aubrey is fantastic.

- Lainey
★★★★★

Thoughtful and interesting

It was research supported without being so bogged down with studies that it was hard to read. A very thoughtfully written and insightful book!

- Karen Hodge

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Alexandra Reed

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